Which property treats their vp players the best?

liked the idea of the 21 thread and had the same question regarding vp. not saying i%26#39;m going to play for comps but it would be nice to get free rooms and i%26#39;ll be gambling anyway.

i%26#39;ve been playing at venetian and get the basic 2-4 comp nights but they don%26#39;t have much of a variety with good pay tables. palms have many but don%26#39;t know much about their comps/players card. thanks.

Which property treats their vp players the best?

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Which property treats their vp players the best?

If you%26#39;re playing VP at the Venetian, you%26#39;re already used to getting screwed, so you can pretty much go anywhere else you want and get treated better. Venetian is now $21/point for any video poker game close to break even, and something like $14/point for most of the rest of the playable-if-you%26#39;re-drunk-or-tired games. At $21/point, that%26#39;s over $500,000 coin-in just to get a Gold card there. As well, the theoretical on the 9/6 games is supposedly now set to 99.54%, which means they assume everyone will play perfectly (which most do not), or you%26#39;re getting screwed there, too.

Anyway.

Palms is probably your best in terms of over-100% play, if you can find a seat there. Harrahs still comps video poker the same, though there are a few machines in Atlantic City that they doubled to $20/point, which sucks. I%26#39;ve never gotten ANY kind of mailers based on my VP play at Wynn, though admittedly it hasn%26#39;t been much.

I typically play just-under 100% games, and MGM properties have always been the best for me in terms of video poker comps. At least for right now, they don%26#39;t seem to base their comps on theoretical win, only on coin-in of the specific machine, which works great for nearly break-even games.

VP is still 10/point at Harrahs AC. Was just there May 8-10 playing dollar 9/6 so I am very sure it was just a rumor, based on the one row of 4 machines at Bally%26#39;s, they are triple play dollar 9/6, and are 20/point, but they are very well stickered saying it so there is no surprises! Every other VP in AC is 10/point.

There is really no place on the strip in Vegas that has full pay VP and is generous with comps. There are some limited 2 and 5 dollar full pay machines, but comps are not great.

Off-strip, I really think Station casinos are good. Plenty of full pay in all, with free rooms and meals comped every stay with minimal play at SS, and moderate play at Red Rock.

Palms does have full pay, but I am not aware of how they comp people who only play good VP there.

Venetian/Palazzo remain my strip fav%26#39;s, decent 7/5 Bonus at the bar, and it%26#39;s actually just 3 dollars in for a point, not 14. The 21/point is for the full pay, so bartop is still 3/point. I have no idea what the tier 1 and 2 VP is, the Club Grazie rep said it was for some 3/play/5play machines, and some of the multi-strike ones, but I didn%26#39;t play them, and bartop VP for gold was accruing at 2.50/point, 3 for grazie.

One of my other places I really like is Bellagio, for the feel of the place, not great VP or Comps. They also have 7/5 Bonus at the bar, but over 10K in action did not even score a room, just casino rate.(89) The host said to ask next time if I have over 9000 points a day, which I will never have...... The same 10k in action on the same 7/5 bonus machines at Palazzo gets 2-4 free suite nights, about 100 in food comps off the bill too, so frankly I feel like Venetian/Palazzo were not screwing me at all, but MGM owned Bellagio was, just to give another viewpoint comparing similar coin-in, and what to expect in general. The 10K a day in action in any HET property will get you great room and comp offers, I have literally stacks of free junk mail that will not be used.....

My mailman must think I have a real gambling problem!

thanks for the replies. i really like the venetian suites so getting them comped isn%26#39;t what i think of %26#39;getting screwed%26#39; means. i think i just realized that i%26#39;m happy in this situation haha. i don%26#39;t pay attention to coin-in/points because i just want the free rooms. if i stop getting them, i%26#39;ll probably try out some mgm properties but guess not bellagio.

does anyone have info on how palms treat their vp players, personally? i know i can just call but i like hearing people%26#39;s experiences and stuff. thanks

I have to agree with Moneybagz. If you enjoy where you are staying, and still getting free rooms, you are not screwed! But, I understand wondering if there is a ';better'; option.

If it%26#39;s full pay you really want, then off-strip may make you happier. If it%26#39;s strip location, great comped rooms, that you are really wanting,the Palazzo/Venetian is a good option.

Frankybarb, I did mention that only some of the machines at Ballys AC are now $20/pt -- the 3-play and 5-play, specifically -- but with them doing that, I%26#39;m wary that they may be moving in that general direction for near break-even paytables, much like Venetian has done.

Here%26#39;s the list of Venetian machines and their tier levels:

venetian.com/uploadedFiles/…PokerMachines.pdf

7/5 BP is indeed still on their regular point system, and that%26#39;s still a 98% game with perfect play. That%26#39;s an expected loss of $200 per day. I%26#39;d rather pay $125ish for the room and head over to Palms to play 100.76% DW, with an expected return of $76 on that money. :)